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Post by droc0794 on Jan 27, 2004 21:11:04 GMT -5
There are many issues out there that christians and southerners have the same feelings toward. This should tell you something; the majority of those who vote "christian" are southern.
abortion, same-sex-marraige, capital punishment, morning after pill, gun control, prayer in schools, christian documents/monuments on public, city or state prop.......these are only a few of the issues that directly affect us.
If you are one of those southerners who feel that these "christian" issues do not affect our southern cause, you need to reevaluate your stance. If we continue to allow these liberal politicians to run all of our morals in the ground, we will no longer deserve the right to be free. We cant just pick and choose what issues are southern and stick with those, we have to dig deeper, we have to serve a higher cause than our beloved south...we have to stand on our morals.
This is the ONLY way to ensure that our children will be protected. This is the only way to ensure that the south WILL rise again. And, this is the only way for us to break the trend of sin in our country.
GOD bless you and yours
Deo Vindice
Derek
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Post by Rebel on Jan 31, 2004 9:51:24 GMT -5
Here is where I stand......I am not a religious person. I am, however, a devoted Southerner and am extremely proud of my southern heritage.
I do not agree with the line of thinking that if your are not a devoted christian, you cannot stand for the cause of Southern Independence......
Even though I am not religious, I do believe that if this world lived by the at least eight of the ten commandments, it would be better off.
I do not like people forcing their religion on me and I will not stand by and let someone force me to believe like they do.
I live my life as I choose, not how you choose for me.
I think Religion and Southern Independence should be a seperate argument....
JMO
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Post by droc0794 on Feb 2, 2004 0:28:32 GMT -5
Your feelings on this subject are duely noted and respected.
I, in no way, am trying to push my "religion" on anyone; however, if we (the south) continue traveling the same road that we have been on since the institution of reconstruction, we will endure the same results.
Times are changing, and so is the approach we must take to be successful in our bid for freedom. I am not implying that for us to win everyone has to be in church every time the doors open...BUT....if we cannot get a graspe on what it will take to elevate our country (dixie) above all others, we will never make any headway. We have to take on some form of responsibility, we have to stand on our morals. These morals I speak of havent changed since 1861. These morals were good enough for our ancestors; these morals and their faith carried them through the most trying times of their lives.
Everyone has an opinion and chooses their own lifestyle, but as for me, I know that a relationship with GOD will sustain me through whatever can be thrown at me...ironically enough, our two greatest military leaders felt the same way....most true southerners have heard of them Gen. Robert E. Lee and Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.
GOD bless you and yours
Deo Vindice
Derek
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Post by IRONCLAD on Feb 9, 2004 0:10:44 GMT -5
Do you need help posting? And is this a friend of mine from the Cape? IRONCLAD/Luckie |
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Post by Confederate on Feb 19, 2004 21:04:45 GMT -5
Without GOD, there would have NEVER been a uprising against the north. You have GOD to thank for the great Confederate leaders.
In the Bible, it describes non-believers as "willingly ignorant."
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Post by droc0794 on Feb 21, 2004 15:11:52 GMT -5
Confederate...greeat post
I replied to another of your posts on the civil war today thread. That was a good post and it really impressed me that you are searching for the truth while being surrounded by the liberal history forced upon those your age in school.
But...this is a totally different issue in itself. You see, my reason for this thread was to bring our overall focal point to GOD, not to push religion on anyone or judge, but to open up an understanding of GOD's role during the war for southern freedom. His hand guided our ancestors in their plight, and that same hand is guiding us.
Two southern role models are Gen Lee and Gen Jackson. In a earlier post, I reminded one of our brother-in-arms that if these two men trusted in GOD with an unbreakable faith, then that is a great starting point for us.
Stand strong confederate, first on your faith in GOD, second on your southern convictions.
GOD bless you and yours
Deo Vindice
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Post by Rebel on Feb 21, 2004 20:41:25 GMT -5
We share the same morals....I am just not a religious person.
I believe morals guided our ancestors and the fact that the CSA was being attacked. They were defending their homeland.
I believe religion was a HUGE part of everyones life back in the 1800's and early to mid 1900's but today religion is altogether different in the minds of the people. It is basically nonexistent in most people's mind today.
Again, I repeat myself....WE share the same morals just not religion.
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Post by Confederate on Feb 22, 2004 1:01:15 GMT -5
Morals are derived from the Bible. If you believe in our morals, then you should believe in a God, our God.
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Post by droc0794 on Feb 22, 2004 12:03:53 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from rebel
But, what a lot of people fail to realize is that in a true christians mind, "religion" isnt as vast and wide open as many are taught. There is only one "religion", that is Christianity.
Confederate makes a great point, our morals are "of" the Bible; GOD's word.
Your analysis of religions role in the 1800's and part of the early 1900's is very, very accurate. The irony of your statements is that the bible tells us all of this; talks about the fact that many will turn away from his word. Don't misunderstand me, the Bible doesnt give exact dates, but alot of the issues happening today are happening in the same order the Bible gives us.
The problem we face today, as southerners is that if we cant get back to GOD, as a whole, and we face the possibility of secession without him, we will have no true, noble, sacred purpose, other than what we want.
For our cause to be successful, we have to have a stronger purpose than just freedom from a corrupt gov., and if we look at the souths history in their fight for freedom, we will need GOD.
As I stated before rebel, I am not here to try to push "religion" on anyone, but I will push Christianity when the Lord leads me. The one issue that I take the most pride in is the fact that I feel that I have been spun in the mold of my noble ancestors, my GOD comes first, my Family comes second, and my country, Dixie, comes third. This is the balance in my life; my drive for my home, for Dixie, comes from above, it is divine, and it cant be wrong.
GOD bless you and yours
Deo Vindive
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Post by IRONCLAD on Feb 22, 2004 19:45:32 GMT -5
Good post droc0794 and well said by everyone.
I'm not religious either, but I do believe in GOD.
I am a christian thou. I know Jesus died for us all.
Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship with the Lord.
I know you know this droc0794, I think this is what you meant right?
IRONCLAD
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Post by droc0794 on Feb 23, 2004 22:02:17 GMT -5
Youre speakikng the truth ironclad
Sorry if I wasnt clear in making my point...Our relationship with GOD should be our first priority. If we keep him first, all other issues in life ( family, our Dixie, etc. ) will all fall into place.
GOD bless you and yours
Deo Vindice
Derek
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Post by freesouthron on May 16, 2004 21:28:41 GMT -5
I believe religion was a HUGE part of everyones life back in the 1800's and early to mid 1900's but today religion is altogether different in the minds of the people. It is basically nonexistent in most people's mind today. Rebel Rebel, I can certainly appreciate your opinion, but I have to disagree on this point. Religion isn't gone from the minds of the majority. The last poll I saw showed that something like 75% of the people in this country believe in God and 98% think they are going to heaven (or some form of it if one exists). The idea that religion is relatively nonexistent is a notion pitched by the liberal thinktanks in universities and the media. By convincing people there is no God, they can also convince them there is no sin and no consequence for wickedness. Deo Vindice |
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Post by Confederate on May 17, 2004 21:37:29 GMT -5
By convincing people there is no God, they can also convince them there is no sin and no consequence for wickedness. Deo Vindice Which is WHY we should take action and SEPERATE (secede) from these horrible people!! |
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Post by CornFedReb on May 17, 2004 22:13:38 GMT -5
I believe religion was a HUGE part of everyones life back in the 1800's and early to mid 1900's but today religion is altogether different in the minds of the people. It is basically nonexistent in most people's mind today. Rebel You are correct that "religion" is altogether different in the minds of the people. What passes for Christianity today would be unrecognized by our Confederate forefathers. I have to disagree about the nonexistent part though. Check the following link for nonexistent religion: www.flahum.org/forum_feature/images/religionmap-large.gifGod Save the South, CornFedReb |
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Post by freesouthron on May 18, 2004 18:15:17 GMT -5
Which is WHY we should take action and SEPERATE (secede) from these horrible people!! I agree. I am not advocating a theocracy, but I do support a Constitutional government that recognizes and serves God...the way our forefathers did. Deo Vindice |
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